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Shelly Filgo outside Salt Lake City Council Districts February 25, 2020, 1:11 PM
Better signs, directional trails indicating bike or hike. Perhaps have people that would be willing to host different areas passing out dog baggies and where to dispose. Check out Round Valley mountain trails they do a great job of keeping traffic organized and dog waste under control.
Rachel White inside Council District 3 February 18, 2020, 6:37 PM
Please involve experts in designing bike trails to minimize the erosion that's happening. And wildlife specialists, especially in the areas around Twin Peaks / Tomahawk natural area -- there are elk and deer with almost no winter range left, eagle aeries that don't need to be bothered by dogs, bobcats and so on. Consider the critters, it's their house.
richard steiner inside Council District 6 February 13, 2020, 4:20 PM
A foothill trail system is long past due. Sister cities up and down the Wasatch front are way ahead of SLC in trail building. There is no reason (unless funding is an issue) why this process is taking so long. Solve the funding issue by stopping expensive on going studies and just start building the trails!!
Some comments on previous comments: Someone spoke to including off leash trails. I am all for regulating dogs off leash. right now almost everyone disregards the posted signs that dogs should be on leash on the shoreline trail-especially in Dry Creek and beyond heading towards City Creek canyon. By all means include enforcement of current rules and designate some new trails as off leash on even days so between Millcreek Canyon and the SLC foothill system there is always a place for off leash dogs and mtn. bikers. Someone else commented on needing trails for biking with off leash dogs. This is a TERRIBLE idea. Hikers don't always pack out dog waste, bikers don't even know where their dogs are. Ban biking with dogs. Dogs running loose are a hazard for other bikers. Draper has built some trails that are designated as hiking only (as has PC). This is a good way to separate mtn. bikers and hikers. The hiking trails should also alternate leash and unleash so that hikers who are fearful of dogs (yes there are many of us) can enjoy the system. And patrol and ticket dog users who do not carry out the dog waste or who break the leash laws. Currently I could make about $1000/day if I had the authority to ticket people with their dogs off leash where it is posted that they must be on leash.
Kate Bowman inside Council District 6 February 12, 2020, 8:51 PM
First of all, I would like to thank the Council for considering a comprehensive, long-term plan for a trail network in the foothills. The open space above the city is cherished by so many residents and it is important that any development is done with consideration for not only to meet the needs of current residents, but in a thoughtful way that protects this important resource and ensures that future residents will get to enjoy it as well.
Directional mountain bike trails are a great way to improve safety and reduce user conflicts. The downhill-only mountain bike trails in Park City and Corner Canyon are very popular, and since most mountain bikers prefer the downhill-only trails they lessen downhill traffic on other multi-directional trails in the area. Uphill only trails are generally compatible with hiking and other uses since bikers are moving relatively slowly. Armstrong trail in Park City is a good example of this. Dry creek is desperately in need of an uphill-only trail and a convenient downhill-only alternative. I use this trail as both a biker and a runner, and it's scary to go up in the early evening hours when lots of people are coming down.
Next, I request that the Council carefully consider public input before designating any trail that is currently a multi-use or multi-directional trail for a specific use. There are some great rugged trails in the foothills that many would consider too steep for mountain biking, but there are also folks who have been biking those same trails for years and love them because they are difficult. I notice one trail in particular in the plan that has been marked as a "hiking only" trail - but it's currently a great bike trail, and steep enough that hiking it involves sliding around on scree. I have only seen a hiker on the trail once. As others have mentioned, while smooth machine-built bike trails are tons of fun, having a few old hand-built (goat-built?) trails gives a network character. Very few people will ultimately ride these trails, so the risk of user conflicts is pretty low, but for the few that do ride them they're the most fun trails out there. A staged approach with opportunities for public input before changing any trail designations can be used to consider input from everyone who loves these trails.
I encourage the Council to consider if and how e-bike use fits within the plan. E-bikes are a great tool to make the outdoors more accessible to many people, but they can also be disruptive, especially when e-bike riders don't understand good trail etiquette. Old fire roads that are too steep for most mountain bikers are often ridable on an e-bike, so creating a designated e-bike uphill route might be a good way to allow e-bike use.
Last, trailhead bathrooms, please!
I am excited to see the next phase of the plan and grateful the city is taking steps to make our amazing trail network even better.
Chris Olsen inside Council District 7 February 11, 2020, 2:28 PM
First comment is on public safety! I often see tourists hiking UP the SLC Bobsled trail or less often folks walking their dogs UP the SLC Bobsled. There is no signage to alert anyone that DH bikers are flying down that route and around blind corners. A serious collision is very likely. The out of town tourists that I have approached (back in the OR Show days) think it is a hiking trail. The development plan is geographically phased to start north and work south yet I think some warning signs on this particular trail are “low hanging fruit” and should be done immediately in phase 1 and not delayed.
I think the plan is very well done and I am supportive and excited for SLC to catch up to the surrounding suburbs with an organized trail system. It is long overdue! The congestion and bottleneck of the Dry Creek entry trail is perhaps something more urgent than the trails it feeds. Quickly moving to a directional trail pair at this crucial bottleneck will greatly impact the success of the trails accessed above.
I am primarily a biker and note that in SLC you have bikers or varied and advanced abilities. I see a great deal of thought put into the slopes and uphill bike trails catering towards an intermediate biker. The bike park serves a segment and the flow trails serve another. It seems that main of the “chunky” or “difficult” trails that I ride today are scheduled for decommissioning and the resulting system will be somewhat void of advanced ups/downs. Please leave some rugged terrain intact. For example, the Bobsled rivals Corner Canyon’s Rush but what rivals their Jacobs Ladder? You plan to switchback The Wall (by the zoo) but then what is the “strenuous” climb equivalent to replace it? I see many XC or “blue loops” of flow but only decommissioning of chunky black routes which may foster a rogue culture to seek new unsanctioned challenges. Leave some Little Cottonwood Canyon in your plans for SLC please!
Lastly, let me say (as a mountain biker) that the off-leash dogs are not really a problem except for Dry Creek complications. There are the usual issues of bagged or un-bagged poo left to rot forever on the trails but even those forgotten bags are usually collected by volunteers or the more responsible dog owners will collect extra piles – I have seen and thanked several. My experience says that bikers and dogs can get along on the trails. So contrary to some other comments, I see no problem with sections allowing both groups to roam free. I do NOT support even/odd day restrictions.
Traci Thompson inside Council District 6 February 9, 2020, 8:47 AM
I am a Salt Lake City resident and a volunteer coach for a mountain bike team at a local title 1 school. Thew Salt Lake Center for Science Education mountain bike team rides together in the Spring, summer and fall. We have riders ranging in age from 7th to 12th grade. Riders and their parents love the physical and mental benefits that come from being physically active outdoors. We try to ride trails close to Salt Lake City to minimize our contribution to the air pollution. This generally puts us on the Bonneville Shoreline Trail. This amazing trail is used by walkers/hikers, dog walkers, trail runners and other mountain bikers. We are lucky to have it, but it can be really congested.
I fully support the new trail proposals and hope this is just the beginning of an effort to provide opportunities for outdoor recreation in our area. Single use and directional trails will improve the safety and overall experience for all trail users.
Amanda Lambert inside Council District 6 February 7, 2020, 3:54 PM
I am very excited about the proposed addition to new trails in the Foothill area. My concerns are enforcement of one way biking trails since current leash laws are not enforced at all. Designated bike days or trails might be good idea to address safety concerns with walkers and hikers.
Shane Graham inside Council District 5 February 6, 2020, 5:38 PM
This is long overdue, and I'm excited at the prospect of the BST becoming the hub of a giant biking network. I approve of everything I see in the plan: lots of access points, careful thought into how to balance all users' needs, new trailheads with parking and facilities (though I still wonder if there will be enough parking for a busy Saturday morning once demand ramps up). Now if you can just convince UTA to run regular buses to the trailheads...
Name not shown inside Council District 6 February 6, 2020, 3:07 PM
Thank you for the City's efforts in developing a much-needed trails plan. Salt Lake City has incredible natural resources for trails systems, but those resources have been neglected, and as a result the City is behind other places like Draper, Herriman, Alpine, Boise, and other municipalities who are either beginning or are deep into formal trail construction.
I fully support the City's plan, and I also support significantly expanding upon the proposed plan. My only reservation is the north end of the plan, near North Salt Lake. Those trails are not easily accessible from Salt Lake City, but are easily accessed from North Salt Lake and will be heavily used by residents from North Salt Lake, Bountiful, and other South Davis County residents (I say this as a former Davis County resident who has many family and friends who live in North Salt Lake). I do not necessarily have a problem with that, but I would prefer to see my tax dollars going toward trails and trailheads for the section between City Creek Canyon and Emigration Canyon, where the primary users will be City residents. I therefore ask that the trails and facilities from City Creek to Emigration Canyons be prioritized and that the trails and facilities at the north end of the City be saved for last.
Thank you very much.
Name not shown inside Council District 5 February 6, 2020, 11:00 AM
Please, please consider designating a segment of the shoreline trail or general area within the foothills for off-leash dogs. Many members of this community, myself included, place great value on having a place to take our dogs to run freely. At this point, Millcreek Canyon is the best, and arguably, the only option for hiking or trail running with dogs off leash, and only on odd numbered days. The only conflicts I have had with my dog have been with bikers riding way too fast in an area on the shoreline trail known to be crowded with, not only dogs, but also families, children, and trail runners. Other than designating an off-leash area in the foothills, I also suggest identifying specific trails for off-leash use/hiking only and not for biking (and vis versa) to reduce these conflicts. In general, dog owners, mountain bikers, and all users need better education on proper etiquette to avoid user conflict, protect wildlife, and maintain ecological health of the foothills.