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Name not shown inside Bethesda/Chevy Chase January 20, 2020, 8:58 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have a significant impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

It will be a great improvement for horses and their community of caretakers - right now, rain, cold or extremely hot weather limit or prevent that horses be brought outside., In addition, the barn currently uses significant amounts of water to try and reduce the dust in hot dry weather. A covered arena will significantly reduce the water consumption.

Karin Krchnak inside North Bethesda January 18, 2020, 5:06 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have no impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

In my opinion, the proposed covered riding ring will have a positive impact but I did not check above as it was not given as an option. My daughter and I both ride at Meadowbrook. I always see people who do not ride at Meadowbrook coming to enjoy the area and see the horses. It is an amazing asset we have in our community. I am not even sure why this is being questioned, considering downtown Bethesda is being made to look like Crystal City (and I don't mean that as a positive). The design is beautiful and it will only enhance the experience for those who ride at Meadowbrook, help all of the wonderful horses and ponies at the stables to be healthier and happier, and the community to ensure that this asset remains in good condition..

Ray Hill inside Bethesda/Chevy Chase January 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have a moderate impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

Safe environment for horse/rider, Changes landscape , Open up riding to a wider community, Environmental/ flood concerns

Name not shown inside North Bethesda January 17, 2020, 4:53 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have a moderate impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

Having a covered arena will allow customers to continue to train during the winter months., Having a covered arena will be more comfortable for the horses, in the cold winter as well as in the hot summer., Having a covered arena will improve Meadowbrook's impact on the environment, as it will keep the dust from the rings out of the air and neighborhood.

James Andesom outside Planning Areas January 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have a moderate impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

The project will allow horses to get out of stalls and exercise in inclement weather. This is both physically and mentally beneficial to the horses, It will provide safe environment for riders to take better advantage of Meadowbrook facilities in all weather conditions., The project will enhance the profile of the project and make it more attractive to the community., The project will reduce water runoff , will reduce nighttime ambient lighting and power usage and will use solar power to reduce usage of electricity, I live close to the project. My children and I rode at MB for years. MB provided great physical and mental relaxation for me. In addition to great joy, MB provided great education and character building opportunities for my children. This project will enhance the ability of MB to provide the same benefits to others.

McKenzie Cato outside Planning Areas January 17, 2020, 3:47 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have a significant impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

The indoor ring will allow for lessons year-round despite inclement weather, which will benefit the riders at Meadowbrook and the horses., The indoor ring will cut down on light, dust, and noise from lessons., The indoor ring has a very attractive design that integrates well with the historic property.

Kristin Shepard outside Planning Areas January 17, 2020, 3:27 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
Other - Great addition to the park! Will allow riders and horses to use the facility even in inclement weather.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

I see the project as a plus for the park and for the community. Visitors love to see the horses being ridden, and the indoor ring will allow riding to continue throughout the winter.

Meredith Powers inside Silver Spring January 17, 2020, 2:53 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have a significant impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

CON: As a 26-year-old resident and future inheritor of property directly in sight of the proposed building, I have significant concerns regarding the irresponsible and environmentally reckless construction on a 100-year flood plan. The vast increase of impervious surface runoff that will result from this construction is unacceptable. I hope to live on this land, well into the 2080s, while raising my future children and grandchildren at 2810 Abilene Drive. As a future-minded, concerned citizen, who is also pediatric mental health care provider, I intend to raise my children in a healthy, environmentally-sustaining neighborhood and will continue to champion these efforts on behalf of future generations. , CON: The construction of a large 3-story covered riding rink further isolates the community and diminishes the nature of this public-private partnership. As a lifetime resident of Rock Creek Forest, the stables have remained financially unattainable for the majority of residents. The present incident and lack of communication with neighbors is further evidence of their complete disregard for public partnership and trust-building. As a public-private organization, Meadowbrook Stables fails to represent the diverse backgrounds and multiple perspectives that make the Rock Creek Forest community unique. Closing off the riding rinks, further signals to community members that the stables are an elite, private institution. This "amenity" serves only the few hundred affluent people who can afford to participate in horse-riding recreational activities. The lack of affordable riding options and stark position against therapeutic riding opportunities for valued neighbors with varying physical abilities further demonstrates the willingness of Meadowbook-affiliated individuals to ignore the greater needs and well-being of the community. , CON: As a resident, I have strong concerns regarding the lack of transparency by Meadowbrook's planning committee. The neighbors voicing their concerns, myself included, are capable of respectfully disagreeing with one another and understand the importance of providing evidence to support their views. Those behind the M-NCPPC/Meadowbrook proposal do not hold these same community-oriented values. Their multiple false and misleading statements, in addition to their blatant efforts to hide the impacts of their proposal, are unacceptable and perpetuate a longstanding history of mistrust. , CON: The potential harm that the increased water runoff will add to the Rock Creek ecosystem will impact animals far beyond the Meadowbrook horses. For examples, our community's pets (e.g., dogs), as well as the forest wildlife (e.g., deer, fox, rabbits) will be negatively affected by the additional run-off when exposed to the creek and surrounding areas. The water running off of the proposed rooftops will drain directly into the nearby creeks and streams, likely to carry chemical contaminants and fertilizer into Rock Creek. , CON: The location of Meadowbrook Stables, being in an urban-suburban area, is not conducive to having an expansive horseback riding facility. Instead, serious patrons who would like to allow their horses exercise in the face of increased rainfall should store their horses in another, more appropriate facility that has the land and space to care for horses in a healthy, humane manner. I agree with supporters of the stables that it is not humane to provide horses with limited exercise; however, our community is changing and becoming increasingly urbanized (e.g., the development of the Purple Metro Line) and it is not realistic to build facility that only serves a small portion of the community, given that the majority of riders are not residents of the Rock Creek community. By erecting this structure, the community is losing its sanctuary and vista, for the mere purpose of trying to fit in an over-sized building where it does not belong. Furthermore, the proponents of this plan are encouraging socioeconomic gentrification by attempting to build their own covered riding facility, rather than partnering with the nearby Wheaton Riding Stables to encourage economic growth in Wheaton, Maryland. These socioeconomically privileged riders are fearfully attempting to stay inside the bounds of Chevy Chase, all the while knowingly harming land vulnerable to environmental damage.

Sara Todd inside Silver Spring January 17, 2020, 1:13 PM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
It will have a moderate impact.


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

CON: At last night's public meeting, most of the comments in favor of the proposal really had nothing to do with the new building. They came from people who support the stables, generally. But this isn't about whether the stables should be allowed to remain. The stables are an unusual neighbor for a residential area, but they are decent neighbors as long as they are not hosting so many people that enormous horse trailers, trucks, and cars impede neighborhood access and interfere with parking. These problems occur occasionally, but most of the time the stables co-exist peacefully with the neighborhood. The proposed new building would change that relationship, and it is impossible to imagine any way that change would be positive for anyone but the stables and their customers. This neighborhood maintains its value partly because of the adjacent parkland amenities that are within easy walking distance. This proposal would change parkland to a commercial use and therefore would change the fundamental nature of the neighborhood., CON: Many of the comments last night focused on storm run-off and flooding. Flooding is a serious concern. Recent installation of permanent gates to control park access during periods of extreme flooding is tangible acknowledgement by the park service that flooding is an issue already. Flooding already interferes with neighborhood ingress and egress on a regular basis. It is astonishing and disturbing that the County and the park would even consider a proposal that could exacerbate existing problems. This proposal should have been DOA. Now that plans and elevations have been developed, the proponents should be sent back to the literal drawing board to develop a design that does NOT have an impermeable roof. In an era when environmental concerns have led to development of LEED-friendly solutions such as green roofs, it is unconscionable that anyone who claims to care about the environment would not attempt to address flood issues by including a green roof as part of the design., CON: The sole justification for adding a covered arena seems to be protecting horses and riders from the elements. Although I am not particularly sympathetic to this argument (horses and riders have been braving rain and snow for millennia, so I don't understand why now, all of a sudden, an indoor riding arena is so important), but assuming for the purposes of argument that an indoor arena is worth all of the inconvenience and adverse environmental impact it will cause, no one has explained why it needs to be as tall as the current design requires. A low profile building with a green roof should be sufficient to address the stated purpose (protection from rain and snow) without creating a massive building that will change the fundamental appearance of the park. I understand that the stables are a non-profit enterprise, but if they can't afford to construct a building that will harmonize with the scale of the surrounding park and neighborhood, then they simply cannot afford to construct this arena., CON: I am fortunate to live within half a mile of the stables, so I received the postcard notifying us of last night's meeting. That postcard was my first inkling that these changes were proposed. The efforts of the County and the park to solicit public comment have been unconscionably inadequate, and their refusal to acknowledge or apologize for their failure last night shows that they don't really care about the residents of this neighborhood, any more than they care about any of the other residents of neighborhoods that have been impacted adversely by recent commercial development. The references last night to the non-existent "homeowners association" were very telling. The County thinks that informing homeowners associations constitutes adequate notice and outreach, so those of us who live in areas that are not organized are effectively excluded from the County planning process. We should not be forced to organize just to have an opportunity to communicate with the public officials who purport to represent us. For some of us, not having an HOA is one of the benefits of living in this neighborhood. But apparently, the County is not interested in dealing with residents who are not organized, so perhaps we will be forced to form an association. Be careful what you wish for. , CON: My neighbors may have forgotten about the positions taken by the County and M-NPCC in response to the proposed widening of I-495, but I have not. Everyone should re-read the Bethesda Magazine article (November/ December 2019) about traffic congestion to find interesting quotes from County and M-NPCC officials with respect to their concern about "the impact of the Beltway widening on public preserves, such as Rock Creek Park", including: " 'When the land for those parks was acquired during the Depression era... there was a concern about urbanization and a lot of residential construction without environmental controls in place, and the feds wanted to protect the Potomac and Anacostia watersheds,' says Carol Rubin, the [M-NPCC] official coordinating the county's response to the widening project. 'Now, the urbanization has occurred and those parks serve both as conservation areas and recreational facilities for the urban areas. That's why they are such critical resources.' " The article also points out that "Concerned about the impact, the M-NCCP, owner and guardian of the park acreage in question, voted 9-1 in June against the ... proposal as currently designed." Where was that concern when proposed development could impact OUR local section of the park? Other interesting quotes from that article include "But the primary source of anger among elected county officials was the lack of discussion with them before the announcement. 'There was no consultation-zero,' Berliner says." And " 'Most of the impact is being borne by the locals,' [Rubin, of M-NCPPC] says. 'Shouldn't the locals also get some benefit from it?' " The apparent hypocrisy demonstrated by the County and by M-NPCC yesterday evening is mind-boggling.

Name not shown inside Silver Spring January 16, 2020, 10:52 AM

How will the proposed project impact you or your family?
Other - significant negative impact


What do you consider the pros and cons of this project? Please explain.
To horses?
To people?
To the community?
To the environment?
Other?

I don't see any pros to the neighborhood of which I have been a resident for over 29 years., This structure will negatively impact the flooding in our area and will reduce the green space and reduce property values of the houses that border the rings.