What do you think of the proposal for a parking permit program on Slate Canyon Drive?
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Name not shown ½ to 1 mile
I agree that what is not stated here is that a goal of this is to reinforce zoning ordinances. As a single home owner who has lived in the neighborhood for nearly 10 years I STRONGLY SUPPORT whatever it takes to ENFORCE ZONING ORDINANCES, even if it means parking permits. Zoning ordinances protect the experience and value of communities. It is not targeting, it is not discrimination. However, it doesn't seem like the proposed permit system makes economic sense. How about increasing the rate of the permit to a monthly fee that covers the cost of enforcement? If I'm considering renting on Slate and I'm the 4th renter who would have to park on the street at a cost of $30-50/month I might reconsider.
Questions/statements for Provo City:
- Are there not other areas in Provo that would benefit from having the added staff member? Could the cost (increased permit fee) not be spread to these areas as well?
- I don't understand how the two hour permit is helpful.
- What's the thought process for transferability of permits? If the goal of residence is to reduce the number of cars parked on Slate why would an owner want to give their neighbor the ability to park 6 cars on their property rather than the 5 that they currently have capacity for (2 in the garage, 2 in the driveway, 1 on the street)? Six cars for a single family? Is this the problem?
Name not shown more than 2 miles
I am against both proposals. The staff alternative does not address resident concerns at all. The resident proposal presents too great of costs to the city for very little change. Five hours of restrictions for more than $33,000 a year? It needs to pay for itself—or come close to that goal.
Name not shown ½ to 1 mile
I strongly disagree with the parking permits. You have parking in your garage and driveway. This parking permit only helps those enforcing it. They make money from every permit and towing companies along with neighbors having a incentive to get people towed if they do not have a permit. It is nice to park in my drive way and when I have family over that they can park freely on the side of the street with out worrying that I need to get parking permits and passes. We are not a apartment complex we are all mostly houses on this street.
Name not shown ¼ to ½ mile
Don't do a parking permit program, please. Especially in this day and age of working from home, people aren't getting in their cars and going places as much anymore. You don't even need to leave your house for food haha.
A better solution would be better city planning, and not letting developers squeeze massive houses next to one another, and not plan adequate space for parking. Blaming the lack of parking on singles renting in the area is just as dumb as putting the blame on big families with lots of drivers, and therfore lots of cars. Get the city's help to plan some mini parking lots here and there, and hold housing developers accountable for including more parking space in new developments. I do not support a parking permit program, as I don't believe it's the best solution to this communities' problem.
Timothy Willis within ¼ mile
Street over parking is not just a problem on Slate Canyon but a south side problem. I live on the other Nevada Ave and there are so many homes renting out rooms that in the evening there is no place for a visitor to park. Most (not all) homes in our area rent out rooms and with that comes with more cars some days it is so full that cars park blocking my driveway so that I cannot see to get out easily. I have asked for help from the PD and zone enforcement but been told "we don't have the personal to enforce anything". Parking is not the real problem just a side effect to no real affordable housing. this seems like a band-aid to the real problem. Once the new apartments and town homes are finished on South State Street in south Provo watch the parking alone there become a problem. I use Slate Canyon to access State Street and try not to go into the housing are out of respect for those who live there. Please don't pass parking rules unless the people who live on Slate Canyon want them pasted and then only if you can fairly enforce them. The South Side has become a dumping ground for anything the city does not want any place else. After 36 years in our home if I could find any where else affordable to move I would but for people of my age on a fixed income I must stay in the home I worked so hard to pay off and can afford until I am taxed out of it. I hope you have talked to the PD to see if they can or will enforce your new rule/law before you bother passing it. The PD only enforces the laws they want to or can.
Name not shown ½ to 1 mile
The Provo City Zoning Ordinance for Slate Canyon Drive states that each house has a limit of only 4 cars per house (which is called “off street parking”.) Off street parking means that each home can only have as many cars as will fit inside their property (2 cars in garage and 2 in driveway.). Slate Canyon is a Public Street so anyone can park anywhere, which is fine, but the problem seems to happen when homes have 5,6,7 permanent cars at one house. That is above the 4 car limit and against the ordinance. This can create over-crowded parking problems with poor visibility when residents try to pull out of their driveways. Speeding cars... another serious & dangerous concern. The police cannot be up there 24/7 so there needs to be either stop signs to slow people down or speed bumps. The street is dangerous because there are no crosswalks or stop signs to slow people down for 2 full miles (from 7/11 to the round-abouts on 300 south. Very long, speedy, dangerous race track. I’m surprised someone hasn’t sued the city for not taking this road seriously and getting the city engineers up there to look at all the dangerous (if not illegal) angles, blind spots, twists and turns, side roads, speeding cars, no cross walks...serious safety issues.
I am neither for or against a parking permit. The real danger is speeding cars. That needs to be fixed immediately.
Name not shown ¼ to ½ mile
I like this idea, because it will make people think twice about whether or not they actually need cars. From Slate Canyon you can get pretty much anywhere in Provo pretty easily on a bike within 30 minutes or so. When riding my bike on that road, the greatest danger to me is people leaving doors open or parking in the bike lane, which means that I have to move out into the lane meant for cars, which is frustrating for me and any driver who might end up behind me.
I would charge more for the permits though. If people can pay for car insurance, gas, and Netflix, Hulu, etc, they should be able to make a one time payment of a few dollars more than $15.
William Taylor more than 2 miles
Let's use facts rather than emotions. Fact: Staff said there is no need for a permit program since street parking is not over utilized. So no need to even discuss an alternative unless we are looking to satisfy someone's desires or emotions instead of using facts.
Why should an entire city bear the burden of a parking program in one area? Charge the $300 per household to enforce the parking. The rest of us shouldn't pay for neighborhood grievances.
Fact: More people work from home since the pandemic. Implementing a 2 hour parking program would be awful. Even with only 3 cars per house, one would always be forced to park on the street. Thus forcing them to move their car during the work day.
Some folks think a street that is paid for with tax payer money should not be used by taxpayers to park.
They say it is unsafe, but where are the FACTS? Please use FACTS and not peoples desires and emotions.
Name not shown ¼ to ½ mile
I see the potential of a parking permit or two hour limit hurting the walkability of this area. People unable to secure a permit will squeeze into driveways and make it harder to maneuver. This would especially be a problem for people with strollers. I also don’t want children any closer to the road. A walkable neighborhood is a safer neighborhood.
My thought process is more to allow two or three permits per home, and enforce parking so that developments that planned poorly will not be taking over side streets. If there are problems with speed on this road, it seems more helpful to put up some raised crosswalks/speed bumps (as much as I hate them) or other natural speed barriers to make it safer for those backing out of driveways.
The two hour limit during the day does not seem helpful. As a resident, I would hate to have to move my car if I was working from home if my driveway was not available. It would make me feel like a guest in my neighborhood.
I don't think the two hour permit will help the parking problems and I don't support it. It needs to be overnight or it's not worth the money. I think this is a safety issue. Many of us walk and bike on Slate Canyon and visibility is low, especially in the mornings. I often don't see cars backing out of their driveways because of all the cars on the street. I favor a longer permit program.