Public Comment on Proposed In-N-Out Burger
305 registered statements
Derek R inside City Boundary
Yes! Bring the "Burger Triangle" to Campbell!
Randi Kinman outside City Boundary
No. A thousand times no. The back up lines for drive through cannot be accommodated by this site. My shopping patterns have already changed because of the congestion and traffic flow at that intersection (I won't shop at any business there) and I cannot imagine why you would want to make it any harder for residents. There are other locations, this is not a viable one.
Robert Varich outside City Boundary
Great to see that Campbell was selected as the next location for in-n-out burger. Great for jobs and revenue. Great location near easy access roads.
Paul Luiso outside City Boundary
What with traffic coming in from northbound 17 and making their way to the intersection of Hamilton and Almarida, southbound 17 traffic making the right with many cars trying to get out of the right lane along with other cars making the left turn from Salmar onto Hamilton and trying to turn onto Almarida, there's already enough gridlock to make me avoid that intersection in favor of Camden to the South or Winchester from 280 on the North as it is. Putting an In-N-Out burger WITH an drive thru would make the situation intolerable. I live on Winchester near Payne and use Payne to get to Almarida so I can hit Hamilton near 17. Putting an In-N-Out there would make this route impassible. I vote no on this project. Thank you for considering my opinion.
Rainer Lang inside City Boundary
Bad idea, traffic is bad enough.
Paul Russell inside City Boundary
Approve it! This would be a great addition to Campbell. The traffic issues will adjust after couple of weeks after opening.
Christina Helmer inside City Boundary
I think this is a great idea. Elephant Bar didn't do well for many reasons and the vacant lot hasn't been a big draw for any other restaurant so why not add an In-N-Out.
Lots of people are mentioning there are other burger joints in Campbell but they neglect the fact that these establishments are not drive through and many are more of a sit down style restaurant. In-N-Out offers something those don't.
The other main argument people are making is how at every In-N-Out the drive through line snaked through the parking lots or onto the streets. This location has a fantastic proposal of 60 parking spots and a drive through that can handle 22 cars without taking any parking lot or street space. I would encourage people to view the full plans to see the structure is getting smaller, they are planting more trees and landscape, and they are keeping the entrance to the drive through only accessible from Hamilton to try and help reduce the impact on the neighborhood.
It seems like this will be a great growth and revenue opportunity for the city. Plus, if the city wants the congestion at this intersection to change significantly they should complete a study so the lights are timed better, allowing for better traffic flow. Until that happens it doesn't matter what restaurant/retail shop goes in, the traffic isn't going to improve. Traffic in the the South Bay is getting worse because more houses are going up. Sorry but In-N-Out isn't going to impact it that significantly.
Michael Melligan inside City Boundary
The corner where the Elephant Bar currently sits is 315 feet (according to Google Maps) from the exit ramp of Highway 17 as it turns onto westbound Hamilton Avenue.
Anyone who drives this area realizes that vehicles exiting from Hwy17 have the right-of-way (save from pedestrians) as they have the dedicated turn lane. All vehicles that exit Hwy 17 from that lane must stop and cross two lanes of traffic to get to the Home Depot entrance. This causes traffic back ups on Hwy 17 especially during the evening commute. With an In-N-Out Burger located at the Elephant Bar site, this Hwy 17 exiting traffic will get worse throughout the day. Now mix in the traffic on westbound Hamilton Avenue which wishes to turn right to get to Kohls, Bed Bath and Beyond, or I-N-O Burger within those 315 feet trying to cross lanes of traffic that is exiting Hwy 17.
This will now backup traffic on wb Hamilton towards Bascom Avenue, not to mention those drivers who will drive in the left lane to get ahead and then stop in traffic to merge to the right and will eventually block the two intersections wb Hamilton west of Hwy 17. (Campbell PD has enough of this in the morning traffic with eastbound Hamilton traffic attempting to force way into the freeway on-ramp traffic). This traffic back up will cause further backups on Hwy 17 which will be blocked in the intersection of the freeway off-ramp and Salmar Avenue crossing Hamilton.
Additionally, there will be traffic coming from the west driving eastbound Hamilton which will make U-turns in front of the proposed site. Those vehicles will be backed up and will eventually be blocking the #1 lane of eastbound Hamilton from the light at Almirda back past the Jewelry Store as well as Rotten Robbie at Central Avenue. Anyone who knows Campbell traffic on Hamilton Avenue during the Holiday Season knows that eastbound traffic during the evening commute will back up all the way to and beyond San Tomas Expressway. Adding this I-N-O Burger to this site will make this area even worse.
Of course, people who will be sick of this traffic will now come in from the residential street areas north of the site specifically David, Central, Almarida, Pamlar Harrison, and Monica. There are already efforts to reduce and slow down traffic on these avenues, but the traffic on Hamilton will cause a good percentage of traffic to take the back way causing backups on Almarida which will now cause cars in the parking lot of Kohls to back up and make the drivers frustrated and turn illegally into the residential areas to get away from the traffic.
This does not even address the new housing that is being built on Railroad and Campbell Avenue. The most direct direction for these new housing areas will be northbound Salmar Avenue past Home Depot and Fry's Electronics...backing up traffic on Salmar then turning westbound onto Hamilton where they will need to cross lanes of traffic including the dedicated Hwy 17 exit lane and have to make the same 315 foot turn into I-N-O Burger.
Now, if anyone has seen any of the lines at the other I-N-O Burger stores on Blossom Hill, Coleman, or in Sunnyvale, they all have backups within the parking lots of the shopping centers they are located (save Sunnyvale which is a street corner lot with little space and traffic backs up onto El Camino Real. The lot in question on Hamilton Avenue is small and will result in traffic backups on Hamilton Avenue, Almarida, Salmar and Highway 17.
Hamilton Avenue is an emergency route for Campbell and San Jose PD, the CHP, fire and paramedics. Sad to say, this location is not well suited for a business like I-N-O Burger due to the current and future traffic in this area.
An In-N-Out Burger will be a nice addition to Campbell, but not at this location. Campbell City Planners have already made traffic at this location horrible with the combinations of a Home Depot, Fry's Electronics, and a Kohl's all too close to freeway access.
I would prefer that the City negotiate with the owners of Hamilton Plaza about tearing down the emptied Office Max store and creating more parking at this location, and putting the In-N-Out Burger in the parking lot of Hamilton Plaza. This makes far more sense.
Regards,
Stuart Ching inside City Boundary
Apart from the traffic problems at an already overcrowded junction, what about adding some diversity to dining in Campbell. the Bay Area has a rich demograhic yet Campbell seems to becoming home to the burger and pizza joint. Aside from setting a poor example for healthy dining what about encouraging some alternatives, Indian,Chinese, Greek, Peruvian, Thai??? I know taxes are important but are we just becoming a slave to the fast food chains?
I like In-n-Out Burgers. But, I can't think of a worse place to put one. That intersection is one of the most impacted for car traffic in all of Campbell. There's already significant shuffling of lanes from people exiting the 17, and from people stuggling to get into the Residential area and Kohl's/Bed Bath & Beyond shopping area. From the other direction, the left turn into this area would make all of the trip up from Winchester to the 17 worse than it already is. Surely there's a better location than this. What about the old Mr. Chau's location off Bascom?